Thursday, May 04, 2006

Should there be a quota in government jobs for the minorities and under-represented groups in Nepal?

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Should there be a quota in government jobs for the minorities and under-represented groups in Nepal?

14 comments:

Dreamnepal said...

Yes, it works fine. Isn't this ok as long as we can express ourselves without moderation?

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Anonymous said...

I don't think redistribution/equilization of resources (example, scholarship in private schools) should be forced upon the private sector. The government can do whatever it wants, but the only requirement for the private sector is to not discriminate - beyond that the government should stay out of it. If we start imposing on them too much, all the private schools will be like public schools (a sterotypying to some extent) and the public schools would have no incentive to compare themselves against private schools and try to be better.

Anonymous said...

i agree with bhudai pundit.. there should be no system of elaborate quotas, however, then strict measures need to be put in place to ensure that marginalization of minorities does not take place.

Anonymous said...

I don't see anything wrong with making private institution have a few scholarship students. The effect on the insitituion is negligible and the potential benefits are many.

Dreamnepal said...

I tend to agree with anonymous on that we should not force the private sector into giving fixed scholarships. Many private schools are willing to do that by themselves as it also carries hidden interest of promoting the school and creating a better image in the society.
It is just like sponsoring events,only less direct. When you go and give a public speech about how your school is helping poor by giving scholarships, it makes you feel proud.
So, we should let the private do what it wants. Moreover, government should focus on the lower level of education and not on the scholarships for a select few at a higher level. This cannot be justifiable.

Anonymous said...

KIRAT says

OK, if we discount quotas in educational institutions (Govt. funded) and in Govt. jobs what else would be an effective alternative?

It's good to talk about investing in education in areas and for marginalised communuties. But that is the long term approach. Would that not take at least 20 years? What do we do in the mean time?

Dreamnepal said...

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Anonymous said...

In the mean time I am not sure if we can do anything drastic. I mean its going to be very difficult to just radically change institutions etc. and all of a sudden fire bhuns and chettris... this might spur a cycle of ethnic tensions...
This process has to be taken slowly but the government must make this a priority and take concrete actions.

Anonymous said...

In the mean time I am not sure if we can do anything drastic. I mean its going to be very difficult to just radically change institutions etc. and all of a sudden fire bhuns and chettris... this might spur a cycle of ethnic tensions...
This process has to be taken slowly but the government must make this a priority and take concrete actions.

Dreamnepal said...

sanobhai,
I don't know how far the government goes on to tax the schools. A couple of years ago, there was a rumour about bringing schools under company law.

However, I do not see the point of taxation on education which is the basic rights for all. If we tax, the cost of education will soar up and it will make it even harder for poor folks to afford it. Forget about the revenue government generates from it...the negative effects will be much more...

Anonymous said...

Chankhe2 writes,

Quotas like I have repeatedly posted in UWB is wrong. Equality should be present in the early stages (education, CA elections) not in the end results (quota for govt. jopbs etc.).

Begin with the beginning. Quality education for all and representation of women and minorities in the CA election. Not more than 50% of the seats should go to the parties.
Quotas in govt. jobs can very well end up in the same as before - nepotism and bribes.

Anonymous said...

Quotas are a no go. However, as Kirat pointed out when it comes to jobs, what are are we to do for the immediate short term?
As chankhe2 said, in the long term "begin at the beginning" as far as education is concerned, and as far as the CA is concerned we can put the 50% for women and other minorities for the elections effective immediately, but how about jobs???

I suggest that we can say 25% quota for women and 25% for minorities should be in effect but only on a one time basis. That is, do a phase wise rehiring and firing of the govt. beureucracy. 50% for the usual suspects, but even here other interested people from the majority should be allowed to compete and let the best people win. On the reserved 25% for women, only women of course and again let the best women win and the same for the minorities. However, this should be a one time thing just like the CA, then we go back to no quotas for any new recruitments in the future. The fact that 50% of the people are from the supressed group will insure that new hiring is atleast a lot farer than the situation now even if there are no quotas. However, even the top level officer and secratary posts have to be open for competition.

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